17016 to 43, That's the score. Options

[tung]

I realize a number of you still think the original petition is not relevant.

(Hi, MD!) (IMG:http://www.metallicabb.com/style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)

There really are folks out there that are paying attention. Just Google around a bit.

[soulcrusher]

I realize a number of you still think the original petition is not relevant.

(Hi, MD!) (IMG:http://www.metallicabb.com/style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)

There really are folks out there that are paying attention. Just Google around a bit.

One of those has had media attention and one has not. I am sure the 43 would be larger if it had gotten some media whoring like the other one. Even then that number would still not be as big because why would some one who is fine with the way it sounds go out looking for a pettition that says exactly that so comparing the two numbers is faulty logic.

[tung]

One of those has had media attention and one has not. I am sure the 43 would be larger if it had gotten some media whoring like the other one. Even then that number would still not be as big because why would some one who is fine with the way it sounds go out looking for a pettition that says exactly that so comparing the two numbers is faulty logic.

It ain't perfect, for sure, but I think it's still better than trying to compare one petition against album sales.

[matti]

I realize a number of you still think the original petition is not relevant.

(Hi, MD!) (IMG:http://www.metallicabb.com/style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)

There really are folks out there that are paying attention. Just Google around a bit.

I could be wrong, but people don't usually sign petitions when they like something, do they? Isn't it a bit like me saying, "I like Big Macs. I'll sign a petition to let McDonald's know that I don't want them to change the recipe"? Maybe I'm wrong.

[MagneticDeath]

It ain't perfect, for sure, but I think it's still better than trying to compare one petition against album sales.

No it isn't Tung. The petition against the album sales would be a tad more accurate than this.

[mdaneker]

One of those has had media attention and one has not. I am sure the 43 would be larger if it had gotten some media whoring like the other one. Even then that number would still not be as big because why would some one who is fine with the way it sounds go out looking for a pettition that says exactly that so comparing the two numbers is faulty logic.

Funny, when the sound issue is brought up the Media doesn't say "what do yo think of the 1600 / 40 ratio that wants the CD remixed?"

No one is hiding the petition.

If people where nearly as passionate about preserving the distorted state of the CD, they'd have attention too.

This post has been edited by mdaneker: 10/21/08 05:28 pm

[tung]

No it isn't Tung. The petition against the album sales would be a tad more accurate than this.

Ok, MD.

Tell us.. how can the remix petition compare against album sales? How do you compare the number of people who bought something to the number of people who bought the same thing but weren't happy with it and happened upon a certain internet petition and signed it?

I would love to know!

[SiriuslyCold]

sorry, the topic title reminded me of 25 or 6 to 4 for some reason.

[tung]

sorry, the topic title reminded me of 25 or 6 to 4 for some reason.

There's a kind-of annoying Green Day song that also reminds me of 25/6-4.

[Johnny's Mag...]

Why no links in the original post?

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/re-mix...h-magnetic.html

http://www.gopetition.com/online/22329.html

Don't forget:
http://www.metallicabb.com/index.php?showtopic=89954

[kzdamjak75]

One of those has had media attention and one has not. I am sure the 43 would be larger if it had gotten some media whoring like the other one. Even then that number would still not be as big because why would some one who is fine with the way it sounds go out looking for a pettition that says exactly that so comparing the two numbers is faulty logic.

Right. Someone who is okay with the album isn't going to worry about a petition because there is no issue. And if you look at 20,000 signatures, that is still a small percentage of the total sales. Plus, there are alot of people that just hate Metallica that are signing that petition too just to be douchebags. And there are alot of people that signed it more than once. You don't have to register.

This post has been edited by kzdamjak75: 10/22/08 10:26 pm

[Johnny's Mag...]

And if you look at 20,000 signatures, that is still a small percentage of the total sales.

Again: That's not the point.

First, it's to show the responsible people in and around the band that a lot of fans don't like to listen to a clipping album. At the moment they don't even talk to their fans the way they should. So this petition is still important. At least the band has to face the truth - it doesn't matter if it's 5000 or 10000 or 20000 or 100000.

Second, some people still hope the album gets a re-release. It clearly will get one, as every major record is re-released every 10 to 20 years but has it take such a long time with this?

[Ominous555]

Right. Someone who is okay with the album isn't going to worry about a petition because there is no issue. And if you look at 20,000 signatures, that is still a small percentage of the total sales. Plus, there are alot of people that just hate Metallica that are signing that petition too just to be douchebags. And there are alot of people that signed it more than once. You don't have to register.

When i hear about this little petition I think about those people who think 9/11 was a US government conspiracy. 1/4 of the population is retarded.

[Ominous555]

Again: That's not the point.

First, it's to show the responsible people in and around the band that a lot of fans don't like to listen to a clipping album. At the moment they don't even talk to their fans the way they should. So this petition is still important. At least the band has to face the truth - it doesn't matter if it's 5000 or 10000 or 20000 or 100000.

Second, some people still hope the album gets a re-release. It clearly will get one, as every major record is re-released every 10 to 20 years but has it take such a long time with this?

keep dreaming.

[Ominous555]

Right. Someone who is okay with the album isn't going to worry about a petition because there is no issue. And if you look at 20,000 signatures, that is still a small percentage of the total sales. Plus, there are alot of people that just hate Metallica that are signing that petition too just to be douchebags. And there are alot of people that signed it more than once. You don't have to register.

20000 signatures out of many millions and millions of Metallica fans. LOL Plus don't forget out of those 20000 signatures at least 10000 of them signed it twice or more. I think mdaneker might have signed it 5000 times.

[Johnny's Mag...]

One can combine or edit posts.

[Mrbadass]

17016 to 43 .........

That is just stupid, as many have replied already, because there is no way you can compare these petitions with each other. I actually think comparing album sales to the 17k is better (which says a lot of how stupid it really is) I'm not gonna list up why, because it has been stated in numerous posts already.

I can assure you, that if you had asked every1 who bought the album if they wanted a remix or not, 70% would consist of people saying: " I don't care, the original is good enough for me, or: I've downloaded a remix made by eethfunk (or whatever) and that one is good enough ", 10% would say " Yeah sure " because they want to hear it with a new sound, not neccessarily because the retail is of bad quality, and 20% would say, " Yes " because they really do think the sound quality is bad.

Now, 20% is more then enough to make a remix, and I'm one of the guys who would like a proffessional remix, although I'm happy with the one I downloaded from Eethfunk. BUT, that title doesn't have anything to do with that. You are saying (in your title) that 99% or more demands a remix. That is just like saying "99% thinks St.Anger is better than MoP"

[tung]

20000 signatures out of many millions and millions of Metallica fans. LOL Plus don't forget out of those 20000 signatures at least 10000 of them signed it twice or more. I think mdaneker might have signed it 5000 times.

The petitions are both maintained, plus they filter out mutliples by IP address! So trying to sign it multiple times will not do any good.

We've discussed this numerous times; you must not be reading the other threads.

[JD08257O]

THE SCORE IS ACTUALLY

2,000,000 to 17016

[SiriuslyCold]

THE SCORE IS ACTUALLY

2,000,000 to 17016

you have the memory of a goldfish

we've gone through this before

[JD08257O]

you have the memory of a goldfish

we've gone through this before

MAYBE I DO BUT SO DO THE PEOPLE SIGNING THAT PETITION....

LARS SAID IT SOUNDED GREAT.... IT ISNT BEING REMIXED SO SOP SIGNING.
YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME!

[SiriuslyCold]

we've also explained why we need to keep the petition alive, but.... you don't remember do you?

[Johnny's Mag...]

THE SCORE IS ACTUALLY

2,000,000 to 17016

NOPE:

45 : 239

http://www.metallicabb.com/index.php?showtopic=89954

[mdaneker]

When i hear about this little petition I think about those people who think 9/11 was a US government conspiracy. 1/4 of the population is retarded.

While we are all aware that you are a special needs child and that complex ideas are just too difficult for you to grasp let me explain to you something as simply as I can.

A conspiracy involves a number of people plotting to do something in secret.

The issue with DM is not a conspiracy.

It is a fuck-up.

A fuck-up is what happens when your parents copulate. It produces something unpleasant, something that offends and annoys people, like the digital distortion that the music on Death Magnetic that covers the music. Now I know under all that digital distortion on DM is a damn good CD, but tell me, Omni5 is there anything good under all that annoying shit your covered in?

This post has been edited by mdaneker: 10/23/08 05:10 am

[mdaneker]

THE SCORE IS ACTUALLY

2,000,000 to 17016

Firstly, you have to subtract the 17016 from the 2,000,000 to apply your flawed logic.

Secondly, buying something and being satisfied with the product is not the same thing. I had to desperately prevent myself form buying the Vinyl, just last night in Best Buy (yeah, who'd thought they had it there?) because I really, really love to own music on vinyl and I like the gate-fold covers, but I knew, knew that it would still should distorted when played, so I stopped myself.

I was also thinking of buying a second copy of the CD (I may still Friday) because a local store has them in jewel cases without the coffin hole. I was going to mail the defective CD back to HQ and use the Case for my Moderus Rip.

Cha, Ching! Another sale, and yet I still think it sounds like shit!

Then there's pre-orders, pre-orders, pre-orders. How many hundreds of thousands of us bought online based on the strength of the M:M clips and singles as well as the "promise" that the CD would not sound like shit like TDTNC single?

So, Senator McCain you keep applying your flawed logic, your half-truths and your out and out lies in an attempt to beat us down, and we'll keep marching right over you.