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> I GOT A RESPONSE FROM TED, JENSEN wrote back...He's not happy
oneway23
post 09/12/08 07:21 am
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RE: Death Magnetic mastering job
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Thanks for writing.



I知 certainly sympathetic to your reaction, I get to slam my head against that brick wall every day. In this case the mixes were already brick walled before they arrived at my place. Suffice it to say I would never be pushed to overdrive things as far as they are here. Believe me I知 not proud to be associated with this one, and we can only hope that some good will come from this in some form of backlash against volume above all else.
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ENDER^WIGGIN
post 09/12/08 07:21 am
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Hopefully we can put the mastering petition to rest.
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post 09/12/08 07:22 am
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It hurts to read, but its a fact and truth.
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post 09/12/08 07:22 am
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QUOTE (oneway23 @ 09/12/08 07:21 am) *
RE: Death Magnetic mastering job
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Thanks for writing.



I知 certainly sympathetic to your reaction, I get to slam my head against that brick wall every day. In this case the mixes were already brick walled before they arrived at my place. Suffice it to say I would never be pushed to overdrive things as far as they are here. Believe me I知 not proud to be associated with this one, and we can only hope that some good will come from this in some form of backlash against volume above all else.

And there you have it!!!!
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ENDER^WIGGIN
post 09/12/08 07:22 am
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I told you that. Now focus on the music :)
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Orion1806
post 09/12/08 07:24 am
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For fuck sake, now I know how Gordon Ramsay feels in Hells Kitchen, How can we focus on the damn thing when its been carelessly turned up load that its unfcomrtable on the ears.

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Wakers
post 09/12/08 07:25 am
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QUOTE (ENDER^WIGGIN @ 09/12/08 03:21 pm) *
Hopefully we can put the mastering petition to rest.


Why?

It's a re-mix/re-master petition. In light of this, I may just change it to a re-release petition (IMG:http://www.metallicabb.com/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif)
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post 09/12/08 07:26 am
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QUOTE (Wakers @ 09/12/08 08:25 am) *
Why?

It's a re-mix/re-master petition. In light of this, I may just change it to a re-release petition (IMG:http://www.metallicabb.com/style_emoticons/default/lol.gif)


Remixing takes a lot of time. I seriously doubt they're gonna bother and most likely it would require some re-recording.
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gavdann
post 09/12/08 07:27 am
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This suggests to me that the vinyl will probably sound like crap as well.
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The Moose
post 09/12/08 07:27 am
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QUOTE (oneway23 @ 09/12/08 04:21 pm) *
RE: Death Magnetic mastering job
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Thanks for writing.



I知 certainly sympathetic to your reaction, I get to slam my head against that brick wall every day. In this case the mixes were already brick walled before they arrived at my place. Suffice it to say I would never be pushed to overdrive things as far as they are here. Believe me I知 not proud to be associated with this one, and we can only hope that some good will come from this in some form of backlash against volume above all else.



Well if that's a genuine response (I'm not doubting you, but this is the intertubes :P ) Then that at least shuts up all the "there's nothing wrong with it" crowd.

Case closed.

now we just have to hope something is done about it , though i very much doubt it will.
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Netherscourge
post 09/12/08 07:28 am
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Who's Ted Jensen?
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post 09/12/08 07:28 am
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QUOTE (Netherscourge @ 09/12/08 08:28 am) *
Who's Ted Jensen?


The guy who mastered the album.
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xenophon
post 09/12/08 07:29 am
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I really don't see how (if this e-mail is genuine) it puts anything to rest. On the contrary, the guy himself uses the word "backlash".

Backlashes do NOT involve just shuting up and talking about Kirk's solos.

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QUOTE (Netherscourge @ 09/12/08 10:28 am) *
Who's Ted Jensen?


The guy who mastered Death Magnetic.
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ENDER^WIGGIN
post 09/12/08 07:30 am
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QUOTE (xenophon @ 09/12/08 08:29 am) *
I really don't see how (if this e-mai is genuine) it puts anything to rest. On the contrary, the guy himself uses the word "backlash".

Backlashes do NOT involve just shuting up and talking about Kirk's solos.


It puts to rest the "OMG WB DESTROYED METALIKAS ALBUM :((((((" James and Lars accepted it that way, end of case.
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post 09/12/08 07:30 am
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I guess since it's not Jensen's fault, then i suppose you ought to now write to Greg Fidelman....
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post 09/12/08 07:31 am
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Could someone ask Ted Jensen why he was forced to master the damn thing so loud?
Fucking record deserves more than that.
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QUOTE (xenophon @ 09/12/08 04:29 pm) *
I really don't see how (if this e-mail is genuine) it puts anything to rest.


Well, the one thing is does put to rest is the fact that there is a problem, however much some people ignorantly refuse to believe it. but apart from that.....
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post 09/12/08 07:31 am
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That pretty much ends the hope that the vinyl is better.
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post 09/12/08 07:32 am
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QUOTE (Henri M @ 09/12/08 08:31 am) *
Could someone ask Ted Jensen why he was forced to master the damn thing so loud?
Fucking record deserves more than that.


I'm not sure you understood his reply, he couldn't do anything about it. It was recorded and mixed that way thus the main mix bus was like that. It was James/Lars/Greg's decision.
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post 09/12/08 07:33 am
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QUOTE (The Moose @ 09/12/08 08:31 am) *
Well, the one thing is does put to rest is the fact that there is a problem, however much some people ignorantly refuse to believe it. but apart from that.....


It's not that I don't believe it , it's just I don't play my music at high volumes to hear it.
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post 09/12/08 07:33 am
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Wow this is a bomb....

I would have never thought that this would ever happen.

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post 09/12/08 07:33 am
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QUOTE (Henri M @ 09/12/08 07:31 am) *
Could someone ask Ted Jensen why he was forced to master the damn thing so loud?
Fucking record deserves more than that.

Did you even read the email?

It was already mixed loud. He didn't cause the problem.
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mkultra
post 09/12/08 07:34 am
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QUOTE (CrappingDeath @ 09/12/08 07:30 am) *
I guess since it's not Jensen's fault, then i suppose you ought to now write to Greg Fidelman....

LOL, I think ultimately it was the HAND OF GOD that pushed those levers...visit the church near you.
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Mandelorian1138
post 09/12/08 07:35 am
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QUOTE (CrappingDeath @ 09/12/08 07:30 am) *
I guess since it's not Jensen's fault, then i suppose you ought to now write to Greg Fidelman....


Yeah, why the fuck would he record the damn thing so loud???? I record in GarageBand and it sounds better than DM.
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