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[Kuperjanov89]

http://www.youtube.c...nhc9pX8c#t=745s

Wish I was there Lars had an epic drum sound back then.

[Ozzman91]

You should check out the Live in Moscow 1991. They sounded even more brutal then. Nothing beats 1989 Seattle though.

[Banned101]

1994 was a good live year too. Better than 93, mainly cause James got some power back in his voice.

[malik]

1994 was a good live year too. Better than 93, mainly cause James got some power back in his voice.

Not really.

94 was just as bad as 93. Worse in some places. His voice was cracking all the time, & there was no grit, except for randomly sounding like TBA era again on Whiplash @ Woodstock. James at least had a few good gigs in 93 before it all went bad.

95 was far better.

Edited by malik, Feb 23 12 - 02:13 PM.

[skadi09]

Late 90s was amazing too, except for the fact that they played shorter versions of certain songs

[SindreIII]

Dortmund 1991 is just as good as Moscow. Both are my favourite gigs

[yep-sure]

1991 was Metallica's performance peak in my opinion.

Not really.

94 was just as bad as 93. Worse in some places. His voice was cracking all the time, & there was no grit, except for randomly sounding like TBA era again on Whiplash @ Woodstock. James at least had a few good gigs in 93 before it all went bad.

95 was far better.

Agreed. 1994 was pretty horrible. No grit, and the beginning of the oversinging phase that latested the next 6-7 years. 95 at least had the grit and power back, even if it did have the oversinging.

To be more on topic, everything about 1991 Metallica was amazing. Hetfields vocals and, guitar sound. Kirks solos were spot on and impressive. Lars kit, specifically the snare and bass drums sounded incredible, as did his playing. The only critisisn I could have of the era, is Jason's banjo like bass sound, and the fact that this is when they started playing only the first half of Puppets. Apart from that, it's Metallica perfection.

[MetallicaBLS666]

1991 was Metallica's performance peak in my opinion.



Agreed. 1994 was pretty horrible. No grit, and the beginning of the oversinging phase that latested the next 6-7 years. 95 at least had the grit and power back, even if it did have the oversinging.

To be more on topic, everything about 1991 Metallica was amazing. Hetfields vocals and, guitar sound. Kirks solos were spot on and impressive. Lars kit, specifically the snare and bass drums sounded incredible, as did his playing. The only critisisn I could have of the era, is Jason's banjo like bass sound, and the fact that this is when they started playing only the first half of Puppets. Apart from that, it's Metallica perfection.

Anyone know why they cut Master of Puppets down to 3:30?

[KingLaffo]

Anyone know why they cut Master of Puppets down to 3:30?

Just another part of the "people are bored during the long songs" mindset they had then, I'd assume. They might have been bored with it as well. It's amusing given the 20 minute Seek and Destroy wackiness they eventually got into in that era.

[Breadfan Yeah]

Just another part of the "people are bored during the long songs" mindset they had then, I'd assume. They might have been bored with it as well. It's amusing given the 20 minute Seek and Destroy wackiness they eventually got into in that era.

I thought that was why they cut it, in part. To make time for the 20 minute Seek.

The only bad part of this era, IMO, was Kirk's soloing. It wasn't even really his playing, he just seemed to lose all subtlety (or what little he did have?) with his wah during then, for some reason. The most extreme example I can think of is this. Makes me cringe when it gets to that part.
I wish Lars would've kept that drum sound for a bit longer.

All in all, I still like 1989 better though.

[dip4lyfe]

You should check out the Live in Moscow 1991. They sounded even more brutal then. Nothing beats 1989 Seattle though.

89 Seattle was Armageddon lol

[Jen Ulrich]

94 was just as bad as 93. Worse in some places. His voice was cracking all the time, & there was no grit, except for randomly sounding like TBA era again on Whiplash @ Woodstock. James at least had a few good gigs in 93 before it all went bad.

I saw the band play in April '93 and it was an epic show. The guys were incredible. But then people start going on about James' voice cracking and not being as strong as it should've been. You gotta remember, people, that the band were on the road for 2+ years. Let's see how your voice holds up after singing for 3 hours a night for 300+ shows. Bet it wouldn't sound too good.

[lightning master]

I saw the band play in April '93 and it was an epic show. The guys were incredible. But then people start going on about James' voice cracking and not being as strong as it should've been. You gotta remember, people, that the band were on the road for 2+ years. Let's see how your voice holds up after singing for 3 hours a night for 300+ shows. Bet it wouldn't sound too good.

No one's accusing James. It's just a fact that his voice started going downhill during that year.

[Banned101]

Yea, the band just kept getting more and more dates, and a simple tour turned into a 3 year deal, well four if you count 1994.

[RS24]

Ima be honest I'd rather see Metallica in 93 with James whispering the lyrics than see them now with James yodeling "you're beautiful we love you!"

[malik]

No one's accusing James. It's just a fact that his voice started going downhill during that year.

Exactly. It's a fact, plain & simple.

I love this band to death, everybody knows that. I am fanatical about them. Hell, I have every single thing they've released, including every live show for the past 8 years. But, I am also capable of being realistic about their performances.

Of course I know that it was the tour that did it, of course I realize that it was a strain on his voice, but the fact remains that it was strained, & that is what I was referring to. I didn't accuse James of not trying or something, I was merely stating the simple, hard fact that James sounded extremely rough in 93. In my opinion it's one of his 2 worst years ever, vocally, along with 2004.

Ima be honest I'd rather see Metallica in 93 with James whispering the lyrics than see them now with James yodeling "you're beautiful we love you!"

I'll take 07, thank you very much.

Edited by malik, Feb 24 12 - 08:48 AM.

[Kuperjanov89]

So I watched this gig and when they started to play "Am I Evil" I wondered if Jason has the balls to make the Nazi salute in Germany like he did in Seattle ´89 He lifted his hand, but nothing compared to Seattle. I think he was afraid of getting lynched

http://www.youtube.c...hc9pX8c#t=4265s

Edited by Kuperjanov89, Feb 24 12 - 09:07 AM.

[fade2wayne]

james almost looks like a completely different person these days!

[Razorback718]

I saw them a shitload of times in 1991 and 1992. They were killer every night. I still think 1985-1987 was Metallica had their most hardcore. Those shows are very raw and intense. There's a unique madness to those performances.

1988-1992 was them at their most epic. They were pretty popular by that point and could do huge shows. And of course, once the black album was released, you went to a Metallica show and nothing else. There was no opening band. It was a very special time to be alive and over 18.

[majako73]

^
Yes. They took "half-time" breaks at those shows. The Evening With tour made me a lifer.

[Banned101]

Makes me sad I was born in 93. Lol

[Razorback718]

In late 1991 (I believe) and we had second level seats in Long Island, but because of how the stage was set up, James, Kirk, and Jason would sometimes walk right by us. It was so intense I can still remember that night like it was yesterday.

Though, even in 1991 we could see the changing of the guard, so to speak. It wasn't a hardcore metal audience any more.

[BaNgIn HeAdS]

They were so much better before Newsted left the band. Trujillo brings absolutely NOTHING to the table.

[Razorback718]

They were so much better before Newsted left the band. Trujillo brings absolutely NOTHING to the table.

You mean other than better bass playing, a personality that doesn't clash with every member of the band, and more writing input in one album than Jason had on four.

[Pasc_'Em_All]

a personality that doesn't clash with every member of the band

It wasn't Jason's personality that clashed with the other guys. It was the other guys' personality (mainly James') that caused the whole situation.

I always considered Jason to be a rather easy-going dude.